It started after Roman Babayan decided to find out whether Russians live in shit
Another fight took place on Russian television: this time it was initiated by the host of the talk show “Right to Voice” on TVC, Roman Babayan, who quarreled with a guest, Polish political scientist Tomasz Maciejchuk.
The TV channel itself dryly reported this event last evening on its website: “Today the recording of the “Right to Voice” program was interrupted due to a conflict between the program participants and the TV Center channel will not air.”
Meanwhile, on social networks, the attackers against Matseychuk spoke in more detail about what happened, and a video of the incident was also available on the Internet (the conflict itself occurs after the 24th minute). It began with Matseychuk’s statement that Russia lives worse than Romania, which, in particular, is confirmed by the level of average wages. The talk show host stopped the political scientist with a question: “Did I hear correctly that we live in shit?”
Matseychuk confirmed that he heard Babayan correctly, in response to which the latter threw sheets of paper at the guest and declared, “It’s you who live in shit!”
Following this, pro-Russian participants in the TV show shouted “You, sheep, get out of here!” and others like them began to push the political scientist out of the studio, and the deputy from Odessa, Igor Markov, was especially active.
As a result, he, as his namesake wrote, political scientist Sergei Markov, who witnessed the fight, “helped him (Matseychuk - ed.) leave the studio with a blow to the eye.” At the same time, Sergei Markov expressed full approval of such actions against “Russophobes” and praised the “perfectly correct” behavior of the presenter, who kicked the guest out of the studio: “Of course, it’s impossible to allow such people to make fun of the people of Russia, to insult them on Russian TV.”
Let us recall that recently similar incidents have occurred on Russian television more than once. They were started by kicking Ukrainian political scientist Sergei Zaporozhsky off the air with the words “Every sheep will teach me”, who did not agree with the Russian version of the Boeing crash in the Donbass.
Subsequently, Norkin’s tradition was supported by the presenter of Channel One, Artem Sheinin, in the program “Time Will Tell,” dedicated to the death of Motorola, who justified his murders of people by the fact that he, the presenter, . Sheinin later explained that this happened during his service in Afghanistan.
YEREVAN, November 23 – Sputnik. The assault scandal occurred the day before in the studio of the Russian TV channel "TVC". The speech of Polish political scientist Tomas Maciejczuk on the air of the political talk show “Right to Voice” caused outrage both among the experts present in the studio and the host, Roman Babayan. He demanded that Matseychuk be taken out of the hall. The Polish guest refused to comply with the presenter’s demands and received a slap in the face from Ukrainian political scientist Igor Markov.
Sputnik correspondent Lev Ryzhkov tried to figure out what made Russian experts so angry.
Lowered the bar
"I believe that a person should adhere to some kind of framework. In general, there is nothing good in what happened. And I don’t feel any joy about it. But, on the other hand, I believe that honor and dignity are sometimes necessary It’s impossible to pretend that we don’t hear or see anything when an arrogant young man, who, as far as I know, belongs to one of the far-right organizations, begins to teach us how to love our homeland,” said political scientist Sergei Mikheev, who also participated. in a verbal altercation with Matseychuk.
According to Mikheev, this is not the first time he has encountered provocations from his Polish colleague.
“I once heard him say: “The Russians have never had a state, no, and never will.” He said this on the air of the “Meeting Place” program on NTV. The main problem is that we have been very They lowered the standard for inviting guests from abroad. It seems to me that the general standard of talk shows needs to be raised. It is impossible to invite people who turn everything into some kind of street scandal. Well, on the other hand, it is still sometimes necessary to respond somehow. ", said Mikheev.
Nerves of steel, but not always
We asked political scientist, historian and writer Armen Gasparyan, who is also familiar with Matseychuk, to comment on the situation.
“All our opponents from the Young Eastern European countries were repeatedly asked to behave civilly and to avoid rudeness and rudeness. Unfortunately, on a daily basis we see exactly the opposite. People take advantage of the fact that the expert community for the most part are very calm people who will not flare up every second. But sometimes unacceptable things happen!” said Gasparyan.
“The most interesting thing is that later, during a break between parts, he came up and said: “Guys! Actually I understand everything. My grandfather also fought, and you just misunderstood me." And then he took up his task again. The man is simply engaged in cheap provocations. Every time an attempt to build a constructive dialogue with him and others like him ends in rudeness, abusive shouts and inappropriate behavior. Unfortunately , people are not ready to discuss the problem constructively and intellectually. But when the transition to personalities begins, one must understand that a response may follow,” noted Armen Gasparyan.
According to the expert, such incidents are the exception, not the rule.
“Russian journalists have nerves of steel. We rarely flare up. There have been isolated cases. But the main sadness is that even professional presenters’ nerves can’t stand it anymore. It’s impossible every single day, five days a week, to listen to rudeness and vileness not only in relation to the country, to the people, but also to you personally. What normal person is even capable of doing this,” Gasparyan said.
The Russian talk show "" was taken off the air due to a fight with political scientist Tomas Maciejczuk from Poland, who, during the recording of the program, said that the people of Russia, unlike, for example, the Romanians, "live in shit."
“Did I hear correctly? Get the fuck out of here!” - presenter Roman Babayan interrupted the Pole.
“You sheep, get out of here! Just try to twitch! Get out from here!" - political scientist Sergei Mikheev could not stand it either.
Mikheev and Markov beat up a Polish nationalist on TVC 11/23/2016
“So this is normal? And when do you insult?” - the Pole tried to justify himself.
“We’re not saying that you live in shit,” Mikheev snapped.
“I have the right to my point of view!” - a guest from Poland refused to leave the studio.
“And when you call Poles “prostitutes,” is that not an insult?” - he did not calm down.
"When? Where? Why are you yelling? - Mikheev tried to besiege the Young European.
They tried to lead the Pole out of the studio by the arms, but he began to resist.
Then ex-Verkhovna Rada deputy Igor Markov, who was present in the studio, punched the guest from Poland in the jaw.
TVC did not make public what happened further in the studio. However, journalist Ruslan Marmazov, who was present at the shooting, said that after the Pole, two other guests from Ukraine who defended the Maidan point of view - Pavel Zhovnirenko and Vyacheslav Kovtun - left the pavilion.
Moreover, Kovtun was actually kicked out by another guest from Ukraine - political scientist Andrei Mishin, a native of Mariupol. He said that guests like Kovtun disgrace Ukraine by participating in programs.
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A fight in the studio prevented the TVC from airing the next episode of the “Right to Voice” program. Fragments of what happened during the recording that appeared on the Internet have already caused heated discussion. However, some moments did not make it onto the Internet.
With a few blows, Odessa politician Igor Markov sent Polish nationalist Tomas Maciejczuk, no, not knocked out, but simply out of the studio. Moreover, the fight almost turned into a mass fight. The guest who provoked the conflict did not want to leave voluntarily. Several other participants in the program tried to persuade him.
- Out of here, out of here!
- I have the right to my point of view. When you call Poles prostitutes, is that not an insult?
-What are you yelling about? We are here in our own country.
From the very beginning, the intensity of passions in the studio was not just high. It was off scale. On one hand from presenter Roman Babayan are Russian political scientists and Ukrainians who consider the Maidan a coup. On the other hand, there are supporters of the current Kyiv authorities. 26-year-old Polish nationalist Tomasz Maciejczuk is also here. The young man himself introduces himself as a war reporter, political scientist and public figure. He is banned from entering Ukraine for five years; he seems to be fighting Ukrainian neo-fascist movements. At the same time, he advocates for strengthening NATO in Eastern Europe, as he is convinced that Russia could attack Poland.
The declared theme of the program is “Shatun on the Maidan”. But instead of discussing what Ukraine has achieved 3 years after the coup, literally from the first minutes the conversation descended first into bizarre accusations, and then into insults.
- It was you who killed the Jews. You personally. You drank the blood of children.
- I heard a lot about myself, but that I killed Jews. First time. “I don’t even know how to react,” Roman Babayan was surprised at such accusations.
The presenter repeatedly tried to direct the discussion in a constructive direction, asking specific questions, for example, about the current state of the Ukrainian economy, Petro Poroshenko’s income, which has increased several times during his presidency, and reactions to Oliver Stone’s film “Ukraine on Fire.” In response: the American film director needs to smoke less marijuana and name the Kremlin as the main scriptwriter; Ukraine is an independent country that lives within its means and finally finds itself in this world.
Pole Tomasz Maciejczuk worked on two fronts at once: he clashed with experts from Ukraine regarding the Essay division of Galicia, consisting of Ukrainian volunteers, and got involved in a dispute about the average salary in Russia, which this year is 32 thousand rubles. Having confused it with the minimum wage, which does not yet even reach 8 thousand, the Polish nationalist was happy for Romania, saying that they earn more there than in Russia.
“I want to congratulate Romania on its victory. And you know why, because today in Romania the average salary is higher than in Russia. In Poland, the average salary is now 70 thousand per month. The minimum salary here is 7 thousand,” said the young Pole.
One could object to the Pole - in the European Union itself, Romania is considered one of the poorest countries, whose residents en masse go to work abroad, and everyone knows about Polish plumbers in England. But Matseychuk, it seems, wanted to say something else - nasty things about Russia.
Matseychuk: “Ukrainians also want to live like normal people, and not in shit like you. Not in shit like Russians.”
Political scientist Sergei Mikheev: “Poles and Ukrainians sell everything for money.”
Roman Babayan: “Did I hear correctly that we live in shit?”
Matseychuk: "That's right."
In such situations, the journalist should always be above the fray. But as a person, Roman Babayan simply could not restrain himself and sharply demanded to leave the studio.
Mikheev: “Have you gone crazy? You sheep, get out of here! Get out! Just try to twitch, get out of here. Roman, we need to get him out of here.”
“Roman Babayan himself behaved completely correctly. Of course, it’s impossible to allow such people to bully the people of Russia and insult them on Russian TV. And Roman did the right thing by kicking him out of the studio. This nationalist Pole provoked a conflict,” he wrote on his page V
Fight in the studio interfered with the broadcast TVC the next release of the program " Voting right". Fragments of what happened during the recording that appeared on the Internet have already caused heated discussion. However, some moments did not make it onto the Internet.
With a few blows, the Odessa politician Igor Markov sent the Polish nationalist Tomas Maciejczuk, no, not knocked out, but simply out of the studio. Moreover, the fight almost turned into a mass fight. The guest who provoked the conflict did not want to leave voluntarily. Several other participants in the program tried to persuade him.
- Out of here, out of here!
- I have the right to my point of view. When you call Poles prostitutes, is that not an insult?
-What are you yelling about? We are here in our own country.
From the very beginning, the intensity of passions in the studio was not just high. It was off scale. On one hand from presenter Roman Babayan are Russian political scientists and Ukrainians who consider the Maidan a coup. On the other hand, there are supporters of the current Kyiv authorities. 26-year-old Polish nationalist Tomasz Maciejczuk is also here. The young man himself introduces himself as a war reporter, political scientist and public figure. He is banned from entering Ukraine for five years; he seems to be fighting Ukrainian neo-fascist movements. At the same time, he advocates for strengthening NATO in Eastern Europe, as he is convinced that Russia could attack Poland.
Fight on TVC: full version 11/24/2016
The declared theme of the program is “Shatun on the Maidan”. But instead of discussing what Ukraine has achieved 3 years after the coup, literally from the first minutes the conversation descended first into bizarre accusations, and then into insults.
- It was you who killed the Jews. You personally. You drank the blood of children.
- I heard a lot about myself, but that I killed Jews. First time. “I don’t even know how to react,” Roman Babayan was surprised at such accusations.
The presenter repeatedly tried to direct the discussion in a constructive direction, asking specific questions, for example, about the current state of the Ukrainian economy, Petro Poroshenko’s income, which has increased several times during his presidency, and reactions to Oliver Stone’s film “Ukraine on Fire.” In response: the American film director needs to smoke less marijuana and name the Kremlin as the main scriptwriter; Ukraine is an independent country that lives within its means and finally finds itself in this world.
Pole Tomasz Maciejczuk worked on two fronts at once: he clashed with experts from Ukraine regarding the Essay division of Galicia, consisting of Ukrainian volunteers, and got involved in a dispute about the average salary in Russia, which this year is 32 thousand rubles. Having confused it with the minimum wage, which does not yet even reach 8 thousand, the Polish nationalist was happy for Romania, saying that they earn more there than in Russia.
“I want to congratulate Romania on their victory. And you know why, because today in Romania the average salary is higher than in Russia. In Poland, the average salary is now 70 thousand per month. The minimum salary here is 7 thousand,” said the young Pole.
One could object to the Pole - in the European Union itself, Romania is considered one of the poorest countries, whose residents en masse go to work abroad, and everyone knows about Polish plumbers in England. But Matseychuk, it seems, wanted to say something else - nasty things about Russia.
Matseychuk: “Ukrainians, they also want to live like normal people, and not in shit like you. Not in shit like the Russians.”
Political scientist Sergei Mikheev: “Poles and Ukrainians sell everything for money.”
Roman Babayan: “Did I hear correctly that we live in shit?”
Matseychuk: “Correct.”
In such situations, the journalist should always be above the fray. But as a person, Roman Babayan simply could not restrain himself and sharply demanded to leave the studio.
Mikheev: “Have you gone crazy? You sheep, get out of here! Go away! Just try to twitch, get out of here. Roman, we need to get him out of here.”
“Roman Babayan himself behaved completely correctly. Of course, it is impossible to allow such people to bully the people of Russia and insult them on Russian TV. And Roman did the right thing by kicking him out of the studio. This nationalist Pole provoked a conflict,” political scientist Sergei Markov wrote on his Facebook page.
The argument in the studio continued after the participants in the fight were separated. They demanded an apology from the Polish guest. He chose to leave. Together with him, representatives of the Ukrainian side also left the recording of the program, having previously also quarreled with each other: some wanted to leave, some wanted to continue the conversation.
- No, I will also leave now without two colleagues.
- You will stand here alone.
- I’ll easily do it.
Because of the fight, TV Center was forced to cancel the program. Tomas Maciejczuk showed barely noticeable bruises on the Internet, and despite what happened, he continues to attend Russian talk shows.
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